Let's hope that's as bad as it gets and they recover quickly without the need to "treat" the symptoms which are basically the signs the body is healing itself and getting rid of the poisons. I fear that your wife will unfortunately be tempted to intervene with more medicines which will only give the body more nasty chemicals to deal with.
Negative to both. At least they are not in my presence. In the past when one of the kids caught flu despite the shot it was said that it would have been worse had they not gotten the shot.
I am glad to see there is at least some sanity. But here's what I don't understand.
They are probably masked . Shouldn't the mask be protecting them from sickness? And yet here we are, you got sick, they got sick, and nothing stood between you and them in regards to the sickness. Why still wear masks? Do they ascribe all sickness deriving from the unmasked? What is the purpose of their mask if they keep getting sick regardless of mask status?
Jimmy, you are again right on target. Exactly. If masks work, then how in the hell do we still have Covid here after 3 and 1/2 years of 99% compliance with masking recommendations? How do we still have the flu here when Japanese have been masking against it for over a century? I asked the second my wife early on in the panic and she actually told me, “Do not ask such questions.”.
That would be very frustrating...and as such I would do things that would eventually get my significant other asking me questions of which I would reply "Why I am wearing this repellobeanie™ on my head? do not ask such questions." I am not married for many reasons, this is just another to add to the list.
The discount for paypay thing seems to come and go in different places at different times. I think it happens when a business with a certain sized cashflow signs up they get to pocket a month of promotion.
I shall be fascinated to see how masked the hordes of NY tourists to Izumo Taisha are. Us locals are generally not, though I notice that workers in daytime retail businesses (supermarkets, bakeries, convenience stores etc.) do seem to mask, I suspect there's some kind of prefectural "advice" to do so. The evening drinkery places don't though.
I’m that is true on the PayPal discount but is the last time you have a discount for using cash?
We have tons of foreign tourists in Tokyo recently. Overall it seems that compared to the overall number, not many are wearing masks. But the numbers of tourists are so large that even a small percentage translates into man’s masked tourists. Still see a ton of expats wearing them though. I too am cushions to see how many tourists down your way wear them.
I was thinking Japanese tourists. Izumo doesn't get many foreigners for some reason (too remote maybe?). We were discussing it last night at a local Sake place and guessing how long the traffic jam on the road to Taisha will be on the 1st. 3-4km is pretty much baked in, but it could easily be double that
What in the world was I thinking. I some how took your “NY” to mean “New York” though I must have assigned at least some of “New Year” to it as the mental image I had was of bus loads of New Yorkers going to the shrine for hatsumode. The only possible, and insufficient, defense of me foolishly taking it as New York is that my now main employer is highly dependent upon tourism with a fair part coming from English speaking countries, hench my employment with them.
I’m betting that there will be a significant number of Japanese tourists wearing masks and many of the locals who deal with them will be too. I would not be surprised if the shrine itself requests that visitor masks and social distance, the latter being specially silly giving the crowds that usually attend hatsumode. I’d guess around 50% will be masked but could easily believe it may be as low as 30% or as high as 90%. That 30-90 range is was I keep seeing here in the greater Tokyo area with around 50% being the most common. Why it swings so wildly on some days remains a mystery to me. It may be as a student says, “Tama Tama”, which I took in this context as “luck of the draw”.
A confounding factor is that many Japanese wore masks every winter in vain attempts to avoid colds and the flu long before covid. There’ll certainly be overlap between those who wore them against the flu and continue to wear them against covid but I wonder how many who have stopped for covid might don them again against the flu.
The discussion you had on how long the traffic jam will be is similar to our discussions when planning for our local shrine’s hatsumode. How much sake and ingredients for the red bean soup should we buy. We have zero idea how many people may visit. We can not go on previous experiences as these past 3 years have changed all that. Is there pent up demand and we’ll see more than what was usual as people decide to take back their previous customers or have a significant number of those who used to come every year found new ways to spend New Year’s Eve after being afraid to attend these past 3 years? How many have past away or are too ill to come? We haven’t the slightest idea.
Down Shizuoka way there's more masking than there was for a while, near universal in for super market, govt. office, etc. workers (why doesn't anyone challenge this under labor laws?).
OTOH a lot of people go around unmasked and I don't get the evil eye or have anyone confront me for being unmasked - haven't observed any such, either. Went into a hospital the other day and some machine bleeped at me that masks were required (was just going to check on something at reception) but no one said anything and no death vibe stares.
If I go there as a patient I guess I will mask up, it's not a huge sacrifice for such a limited time as I'm likely to be there.
Re: 'cashless' and SDG's - they are evil, of course. I just mention to students all the things that they are used to having/doing that will be foreclosed if cash is eliminated (privacy not least) and they generally seem to get it. But they are so unaccustomed to any form of active dissent/resistance...
A war or natural disaster or pretty much any major network failure will do more than anything to get people to appreciate cash - or bags of rice or gold... Key vocabulary: 'intrinsic value' (本来的な価値). Being Japan, something like that is bound to come along sooner or later whether from China, hackers, Mother Nature, incompetence or some combination thereof.
Would definitely not want to be in the megalopolis when it does, though.
There's a reason I live in a place where they grow things. Not just rice/soba/mugi but also fruits and veggies. Also there are what a dozen? fishing ports in a 10-15km circle and more not much further away. Just as long as the end of the world doesn't happen while I'm on a business trip to Tokyo.
Mind you if Japan gets to have oil import / distribution problems we'll be in a world of hurt but then so will everyone
There are a surprising number of farms, orchards and the like spread through out our city. We have picked nashi, grapes and at least one other fruit in town. I know that we can go strawberry gari (Be werry werry quiet. I’m hunting strawberries.). In town but we have not done that yet. Can’t remember what the other one we harvested in town. We went camping as The Farm near Narita airport. Each family staying over night gets to harvest some of the crop. We dug out the second largest daikon I have ever seen. The largest was for sale in the store and was only slightly larger. Hakusan and nagainegi were the other two we could get that day. The other time we stayed there we were able to pull out peanuts and Satsuma imo. Not far from where we are is a hamlet that rents out homes of residence who now live in various kinds of medical facilities. We have stayed there several times over a few years before the panic. During on stay we planted something and later in the year we returned to harvest it. The old timers theirs also showed us edible wild plants growing all over the place, which we collected and my wife used to make several wonderful meals. We were taken out to a bamboo grove and collect a massive amount of takenoko. Even closer to home, a farming family hosts rice planting and harvesting activities followed by an outdoor yakiniku party with fresh vegetables from their farms served with the meat.
However, just next door is a massive, voracious neighbor with an insatiable appetite; Tokyo. But my biggest concern is clean water.
Lucky regarding the flu shot as I would have expected the jabbed to have come out worse.
Well, the ten year old was just sent home from cram school with the chills and a fever, so it may turn out as you expected.
Let's hope that's as bad as it gets and they recover quickly without the need to "treat" the symptoms which are basically the signs the body is healing itself and getting rid of the poisons. I fear that your wife will unfortunately be tempted to intervene with more medicines which will only give the body more nasty chemicals to deal with.
Are they blaming you though for the flu? Are they saying that "it would have been so much worse" had they not gotten the flu shot?
Negative to both. At least they are not in my presence. In the past when one of the kids caught flu despite the shot it was said that it would have been worse had they not gotten the shot.
I am glad to see there is at least some sanity. But here's what I don't understand.
They are probably masked . Shouldn't the mask be protecting them from sickness? And yet here we are, you got sick, they got sick, and nothing stood between you and them in regards to the sickness. Why still wear masks? Do they ascribe all sickness deriving from the unmasked? What is the purpose of their mask if they keep getting sick regardless of mask status?
Jimmy, you are again right on target. Exactly. If masks work, then how in the hell do we still have Covid here after 3 and 1/2 years of 99% compliance with masking recommendations? How do we still have the flu here when Japanese have been masking against it for over a century? I asked the second my wife early on in the panic and she actually told me, “Do not ask such questions.”.
That would be very frustrating...and as such I would do things that would eventually get my significant other asking me questions of which I would reply "Why I am wearing this repellobeanie™ on my head? do not ask such questions." I am not married for many reasons, this is just another to add to the list.
Don't ask questions! Ridicule! Ridicule! Ridicule! Opportunities abound. Keep the reporting coming!
Ridicule, yes. But with the wife. No good comes of that. Not that any good is likely to come from this anyway.
It is a plague deadlier than a pandemic. I wish you well. Coming soon to a theatre near us all.
I can see the reviews now; “It was much worse than Covid. I will see it again and again.”.
The discount for paypay thing seems to come and go in different places at different times. I think it happens when a business with a certain sized cashflow signs up they get to pocket a month of promotion.
I shall be fascinated to see how masked the hordes of NY tourists to Izumo Taisha are. Us locals are generally not, though I notice that workers in daytime retail businesses (supermarkets, bakeries, convenience stores etc.) do seem to mask, I suspect there's some kind of prefectural "advice" to do so. The evening drinkery places don't though.
I’m that is true on the PayPal discount but is the last time you have a discount for using cash?
We have tons of foreign tourists in Tokyo recently. Overall it seems that compared to the overall number, not many are wearing masks. But the numbers of tourists are so large that even a small percentage translates into man’s masked tourists. Still see a ton of expats wearing them though. I too am cushions to see how many tourists down your way wear them.
I was thinking Japanese tourists. Izumo doesn't get many foreigners for some reason (too remote maybe?). We were discussing it last night at a local Sake place and guessing how long the traffic jam on the road to Taisha will be on the 1st. 3-4km is pretty much baked in, but it could easily be double that
What in the world was I thinking. I some how took your “NY” to mean “New York” though I must have assigned at least some of “New Year” to it as the mental image I had was of bus loads of New Yorkers going to the shrine for hatsumode. The only possible, and insufficient, defense of me foolishly taking it as New York is that my now main employer is highly dependent upon tourism with a fair part coming from English speaking countries, hench my employment with them.
I’m betting that there will be a significant number of Japanese tourists wearing masks and many of the locals who deal with them will be too. I would not be surprised if the shrine itself requests that visitor masks and social distance, the latter being specially silly giving the crowds that usually attend hatsumode. I’d guess around 50% will be masked but could easily believe it may be as low as 30% or as high as 90%. That 30-90 range is was I keep seeing here in the greater Tokyo area with around 50% being the most common. Why it swings so wildly on some days remains a mystery to me. It may be as a student says, “Tama Tama”, which I took in this context as “luck of the draw”.
A confounding factor is that many Japanese wore masks every winter in vain attempts to avoid colds and the flu long before covid. There’ll certainly be overlap between those who wore them against the flu and continue to wear them against covid but I wonder how many who have stopped for covid might don them again against the flu.
The discussion you had on how long the traffic jam will be is similar to our discussions when planning for our local shrine’s hatsumode. How much sake and ingredients for the red bean soup should we buy. We have zero idea how many people may visit. We can not go on previous experiences as these past 3 years have changed all that. Is there pent up demand and we’ll see more than what was usual as people decide to take back their previous customers or have a significant number of those who used to come every year found new ways to spend New Year’s Eve after being afraid to attend these past 3 years? How many have past away or are too ill to come? We haven’t the slightest idea.
Down Shizuoka way there's more masking than there was for a while, near universal in for super market, govt. office, etc. workers (why doesn't anyone challenge this under labor laws?).
OTOH a lot of people go around unmasked and I don't get the evil eye or have anyone confront me for being unmasked - haven't observed any such, either. Went into a hospital the other day and some machine bleeped at me that masks were required (was just going to check on something at reception) but no one said anything and no death vibe stares.
If I go there as a patient I guess I will mask up, it's not a huge sacrifice for such a limited time as I'm likely to be there.
Re: 'cashless' and SDG's - they are evil, of course. I just mention to students all the things that they are used to having/doing that will be foreclosed if cash is eliminated (privacy not least) and they generally seem to get it. But they are so unaccustomed to any form of active dissent/resistance...
A war or natural disaster or pretty much any major network failure will do more than anything to get people to appreciate cash - or bags of rice or gold... Key vocabulary: 'intrinsic value' (本来的な価値). Being Japan, something like that is bound to come along sooner or later whether from China, hackers, Mother Nature, incompetence or some combination thereof.
Would definitely not want to be in the megalopolis when it does, though.
There's a reason I live in a place where they grow things. Not just rice/soba/mugi but also fruits and veggies. Also there are what a dozen? fishing ports in a 10-15km circle and more not much further away. Just as long as the end of the world doesn't happen while I'm on a business trip to Tokyo.
Mind you if Japan gets to have oil import / distribution problems we'll be in a world of hurt but then so will everyone
There are a surprising number of farms, orchards and the like spread through out our city. We have picked nashi, grapes and at least one other fruit in town. I know that we can go strawberry gari (Be werry werry quiet. I’m hunting strawberries.). In town but we have not done that yet. Can’t remember what the other one we harvested in town. We went camping as The Farm near Narita airport. Each family staying over night gets to harvest some of the crop. We dug out the second largest daikon I have ever seen. The largest was for sale in the store and was only slightly larger. Hakusan and nagainegi were the other two we could get that day. The other time we stayed there we were able to pull out peanuts and Satsuma imo. Not far from where we are is a hamlet that rents out homes of residence who now live in various kinds of medical facilities. We have stayed there several times over a few years before the panic. During on stay we planted something and later in the year we returned to harvest it. The old timers theirs also showed us edible wild plants growing all over the place, which we collected and my wife used to make several wonderful meals. We were taken out to a bamboo grove and collect a massive amount of takenoko. Even closer to home, a farming family hosts rice planting and harvesting activities followed by an outdoor yakiniku party with fresh vegetables from their farms served with the meat.
However, just next door is a massive, voracious neighbor with an insatiable appetite; Tokyo. But my biggest concern is clean water.