I don't know if there is a link between vaccines and allergies. But I will say this.
You see homeless people out in the wild, and you rarely see a bald one, and do they, complain of allergies? My supposition is it could very well be the lack of exposure to dirt and other elements that leads to our demise in terms of allergies. As a kid, I spent a great amount of time in dirt and mud and walking in the woods. I, too, have had bad bouts with poison ivy. I can still smell the calamine lotion.
My dad had rheumatoid arthritis, his brother had horrible allergies. So it did exist for boomers back in the day. I think I heard my dad or someone around him mention that he credits mumps as leading to his arthritis diagnosis. Speculation, but in as much as sanitation does relieve some diseases, over cleanliness can lead to other complications.
See also George Carlin and his bit on germs.
As I was reading this, I wondered if you had tried "masking" to mitigate the small particles during hay fever season.
I actually have tried masking during hay fever season. Used three masks a day. Had a used and unused bag. I would wear one into work, put in the used bag once there. The second one was used between locations during the day and the last, for the trip home. If I sneezed or coughed in one, I immediately changed masks. I would normally go home unmasked as I had used my daily allotment up before then. I trued this during 2018 and 2019. Seeing no improvement and much hassle, I was not not looking for masks for myself early 2020 but was for my wife. Sold out everywhere. The Chinese here were buying them all up and sending them back home.
Rheumatoid arthritis is an immune system disorder, but is it an allergy? I don’t know. I never thought of it as one, but the remarks form my once ex and again new boss has me wondering. However, as I stated, with the ads for allergy meds, there had to be those of the generation that had allergies. What I did not say is that it seems everyone and their uncle is allergic to something these days. Something is driving that. I strongly suspect vaccines.
How about you? Besides poison ivy, any others? Ah, yes, calamine lotion!
I was simply relating that in my dad's family, among him and his brothers, he had a chronic disease, and his brother had allergies. Rheumatoid arthritis is not an allergy.
I didn’t think so, however, it is an immune disorder and I have arthritis like symptoms during hay fever season. Can it sometimes be a symptom of an allergy, I wonder?
I am sure that childhood vaccines lead to hayfever. I also believe Chemtrails add to the problem they poison the air they poison the food they poison the water they poison us directly in the blood. My eldest son suffers the same problems. You sound exactly like him the way he describes it. One thing we got that helped is a Dyson air filter. It really really helps.
We have several air filters but the preexwife blows a gasket if I set them above low. So I have them running at full when she is out of the room. They help a lot! So does the Roomba. Instead of vacuuming weekly, it runs daily…or did before the panic which has us at home.
I learned that after we got the thing. I was against it, expensive toy I thought. But, sadly, it is by far the best vacuum we have ever had. It picks up cat fur from the rugs in one pass better than any number of passes with our previous vacuums and then using tons of lint rollers. Should have taken a photo of it halfway through, the side already roombaed looked brand new while the other appeared to have been hit with white paint overspray.
Wifi can be used to not only map your abode. It can see where people are in it, in real time. Worse, you need not have wifi in your home for them to be able to see where you are in your home. If you live in and apartment and either your neighbor or the building have wifi, the same capacity can be used against you. If your house is in a tightly packed neighborhood such as the suburbs of major US cities, again, is your neighbor has wifi, their wifi may be able to at least partially spy on you.
Finished. Still effective without the caltrops photo. I have also come to the same possibility of a link between vaccines and hay fever. I have a gut feeling the Amish do not suffer from it. I should say "them" meaning suffering from both vaccines and hay fever. Unfortunately, I cannot refer to any studies. I can only refer to my conspiracy sense, which has been more accurate than most studies.
Well, those who live o or near farms generally do not have hay fever. It is reported that autism is nonexistent among the the Amish. I doubt they have hay fever but that may have nothing to do with not being vaccinated.
As far as I know, I haven’t had an asthma attack. When i had what the Kid had last night, it was due to allergies. Yes, they have been suffering from all the allergies their parents have plus a couple of their own.
Great observations! Here's my take on your article and some of the comments.
- It's almost a given that whatever is deemed foreign material to the body could easily become the root cause of an allergy if it is present when you get a vaccine. Dead or inactivated viruses are ignored by the body for a reason. They don't pose a threat and the body knows it. Adjuvants that are added to vaccines are basically designed to cause havoc in the body and get the immune system to react to stuff that it would ordinarily ignore. This is why the only way to get real immunity is to catch the disease (or get a live vaccine, although they can and do mutate and then cause outbreaks of their own, but that's another story). Anyway, this I think is the root cause of a lot of recent allergies, which of course happened in the past too, when the immune system mistook something non infectious as a target, but now due to vaccines this is exploding! Someone in the contents mentioned peanuts and I am sure that some peanut extract was used in some vaccines, so this is likely the cause. I also got hay-fever myself and I am sure it was caused by the recent shot I got.
- I think you are right on the mark with arthritis being linked to other allergies. This one is a bit more controversial as there seems to be less solid evidence compared to my comment above, but lots of anecdotal evidence out there that allergy effects are cumulative. This means that for it to really flare up, it must pass a certain threshold and this could come from DIFFERENT allergy sources. For example, if there is lots of dust in your house, then that threshold is already elevated and you may react much worse to pollen than if your house was kept clean.
- Robovacs are excellent. It keeps dust levels low, dust bunnies are a thing of the past and a light vacuum once a week is enough to be essentially dust free!
- Since you've tried DMSO already (vs I assume you're willing to at least try some of the more controversial products) I've heard that chlorine dioxide might work for auto immune conditions. I have to admit I'm just starting to look into it and am still skeptical, but if it's really bad for you at some point, it might be worth a shot.
- Immune system wanes in old age as it has also aged, but they're us good evidence that it is more likely to get things wrong too, so it has to tone itself down anyway. This explains how a lot of people grow out of their allergies.
Peanut products are in just about everything in the US, so to me, it would be more surprising to learn that they are not in vaccines than to learn that they are.
I have become skeptical of everything and yet, open minded. The human race survived a very long time without modern medicine. I believe that as in other areas, here too much knowledge has been lost or suppressed. I was skeptical of DMSO. Were it not for several factors, I would probably still be so. But I was injured and the only option left was an operation. Readers supplying me with the substance and information on how to use it, I gave it a try and boy, did it work magic. I believe that there are other forgotten cures out there. However, I know enough about history to be wary. Snake oil sales men were real. In Japan, I actually saw a frog oil salesman on the precincts of a shrine. I will look into chlorine dioxide. What is real and not, never easy to discern. With the volume of information easily available now, even more so. I recall a quote attributed to more than one person, “One should never read health journals lest one die of a misprint.” Yet, mankind had ways of dealing with ailments that worked in the past, at least to some degree, that we no longer use.
I grew up with horrible allergies, especially when we moved to the wheat fields of Kansas - both my brother and I suffered well into adulthood (with occasional suffering in my 60's).
When I moved to Australia, I was allergic to nothing, it smelled of eucalyptus, my sinuses were very happy!
So I'm allergic to Australia now, but I have to tell the story. Midwestern Doc reports that - when you take a jab, you become allergic to whatever pollen is in the air at the time of the jab, because your immune system takes a hit, and what you didn't react to before now becomes inflammatory.
SO - in order to take a trip to Thailand, I took a series of shots in 2008. Since then, I have been allergic to Australia (mildly compared to childhood, but still an issue).
THIS makes me wonder what shots I took in Kansas....because wheat is still a problem for me.
Interesting. That seems to make sense. Though I don’t think I had any shots at the times I developed my adulthood allergies. I wonder what the time window would be. I had to get a Japanese encephalitis vaccine before coming to Japan on one of visits. I’m thinking for my first time here when I was in the navy.
I have never suffered from hay fever as far as I know. I do get blocked sinuses and my nose is sensitive and drips often in certain conditions but nothing debilitating. It’s most noticeable when I sleep and I am pretty much always forced to breathe through my mouth. Although I have known people of my generation who did suffer from hay fever (back in my school days) there might only be a couple of people out of a class of around 30. Another classmate had asthma which would get quite scary from time to time but he was the only one.
Of my two kids, the youngest suffers allergies to something in the air and her eyes swell up and her sinuses become blocked. I guess that would be classed as hay fever.
Peanut allergy was just unheard of when I was a kid and people would’ve laughed at the idea that you might have to put warnings on products that may have come into contact with peanut residue even if the products themselves didn’t include peanuts as one of the ingredients.
I wish I could remember where I read it, but there was an article on Substack just recently mentioning some of the ingredients in vaccines contained proteins derived from common foods. And there was a guy a while back talking about jabbing people with something to make them intolerant to meat in order for us to “save the planet”.
It also seems odd that the air I breathed as a child was probably far more polluted than it is today - cars used leaded petrol and were far less efficient back then for one thing. And factories could spew out huge clouds of smoke and in fact that is how you would draw a factory as a child - a big square building with a huge chimney on top with a nice smoke cloud rising above it! Even as an adult I lived close to an airport for a year or two and each morning I would get up and cough for about half an hour and I would literally cough up black stuff! I’ve also been to India in the 90s and the pollution there was the worst I have even witnessed and it would get ingrained under your fingernails and in your scalp just walking through the city. And yet, all the kids looked vibrant and healthy, despite the conditions and poverty.
Ultimately, at this point, we don’t even really need to be sure what harms are caused by vaccines - to me, they are nothing more than quack medicine and if we removed all the unnecessary medical interventions from our lives and the lives of our kids, not only would everyone be far more healthy, we could then focus more easily on any remaining factors. Right now, not only are there too many factors at play to easily single out any one single cause, it’s likely that some factors work in tandem and the combined effects of say food additives and vaccines would no longer be an issue if just one of the factors was removed from the equation.
I am one of the lucky ones, I have outgrown most of my allergies, at 69 I hope it is not a temporary thing. Even poison ivy, and no, I don't expose myself to it intentionally, I'm careful and it has not been a problem.
I didn’t need to even see the stuff and caught poison ivy. But it did get less bad as a teen anger and I don’t think I’ve had it as an adult. Not that that means anything. Not much of that plant to be found at se and as far as I know, it is not found in Japan. I have been curious if I am still allergic to it or not.
In the States I always was told that once you became allergic to something, you would be for life. Not having anyone else to observe, I believed it. Now, after knowing that we have been lied to about so much on health and diet, I have no idea if this is true or not. Not surprised if this too was a lie.
There was no such thing as allergy shots in my child hood. I should say, that there was not such thing in wide usage. They were probably in development and may even have existed somewhere, but such things were always talked about like, “Would’t be great when they finally have a shot that can prevent allergies.”
I remember when such things were talked about, in the late 80 to early 90s as I recall. But only for a couple allergies. It has been since this trio to Japan which began in 2000 that people I knew began taking the kinds of shots and treatments you are talking about, small amounts of the allergen to train the body to recognize it as harmless. But, as far as I know, these were not widely known in the 70s and 80s. So they could not have played into what we thought and were told about allergies and their longevity. But understanding and knowledge changes. Almost wrote improves but as we have recently seen, that is not always true.
I started taking them in 1971, and throughout my school years until around 1980. I don't know how well they worked, but I did "outgrow" the worst of it.
Interesting. Never heard of them growing up. But, like I said earlier, they may have existed but not widely used. I wonder if they may have been found not so effective and they stopped being used for a while as they worked to improve them.
I don't know if there is a link between vaccines and allergies. But I will say this.
You see homeless people out in the wild, and you rarely see a bald one, and do they, complain of allergies? My supposition is it could very well be the lack of exposure to dirt and other elements that leads to our demise in terms of allergies. As a kid, I spent a great amount of time in dirt and mud and walking in the woods. I, too, have had bad bouts with poison ivy. I can still smell the calamine lotion.
My dad had rheumatoid arthritis, his brother had horrible allergies. So it did exist for boomers back in the day. I think I heard my dad or someone around him mention that he credits mumps as leading to his arthritis diagnosis. Speculation, but in as much as sanitation does relieve some diseases, over cleanliness can lead to other complications.
See also George Carlin and his bit on germs.
As I was reading this, I wondered if you had tried "masking" to mitigate the small particles during hay fever season.
I actually have tried masking during hay fever season. Used three masks a day. Had a used and unused bag. I would wear one into work, put in the used bag once there. The second one was used between locations during the day and the last, for the trip home. If I sneezed or coughed in one, I immediately changed masks. I would normally go home unmasked as I had used my daily allotment up before then. I trued this during 2018 and 2019. Seeing no improvement and much hassle, I was not not looking for masks for myself early 2020 but was for my wife. Sold out everywhere. The Chinese here were buying them all up and sending them back home.
Rheumatoid arthritis is an immune system disorder, but is it an allergy? I don’t know. I never thought of it as one, but the remarks form my once ex and again new boss has me wondering. However, as I stated, with the ads for allergy meds, there had to be those of the generation that had allergies. What I did not say is that it seems everyone and their uncle is allergic to something these days. Something is driving that. I strongly suspect vaccines.
How about you? Besides poison ivy, any others? Ah, yes, calamine lotion!
I was simply relating that in my dad's family, among him and his brothers, he had a chronic disease, and his brother had allergies. Rheumatoid arthritis is not an allergy.
I didn’t think so, however, it is an immune disorder and I have arthritis like symptoms during hay fever season. Can it sometimes be a symptom of an allergy, I wonder?
I am sure that childhood vaccines lead to hayfever. I also believe Chemtrails add to the problem they poison the air they poison the food they poison the water they poison us directly in the blood. My eldest son suffers the same problems. You sound exactly like him the way he describes it. One thing we got that helped is a Dyson air filter. It really really helps.
We have several air filters but the preexwife blows a gasket if I set them above low. So I have them running at full when she is out of the room. They help a lot! So does the Roomba. Instead of vacuuming weekly, it runs daily…or did before the panic which has us at home.
Roomba's job is to map your home and convey to cloud. That is not private information.
I learned that after we got the thing. I was against it, expensive toy I thought. But, sadly, it is by far the best vacuum we have ever had. It picks up cat fur from the rugs in one pass better than any number of passes with our previous vacuums and then using tons of lint rollers. Should have taken a photo of it halfway through, the side already roombaed looked brand new while the other appeared to have been hit with white paint overspray.
Wifi can be used to not only map your abode. It can see where people are in it, in real time. Worse, you need not have wifi in your home for them to be able to see where you are in your home. If you live in and apartment and either your neighbor or the building have wifi, the same capacity can be used against you. If your house is in a tightly packed neighborhood such as the suburbs of major US cities, again, is your neighbor has wifi, their wifi may be able to at least partially spy on you.
Finished. Still effective without the caltrops photo. I have also come to the same possibility of a link between vaccines and hay fever. I have a gut feeling the Amish do not suffer from it. I should say "them" meaning suffering from both vaccines and hay fever. Unfortunately, I cannot refer to any studies. I can only refer to my conspiracy sense, which has been more accurate than most studies.
Well, those who live o or near farms generally do not have hay fever. It is reported that autism is nonexistent among the the Amish. I doubt they have hay fever but that may have nothing to do with not being vaccinated.
I am halfway through...You forgot to add the CALTROPS photo!
Thanks. Just updated it. Things suddenly got hectic here. Preexwife and the Kid had to leave in a hurry to get to the emergency room before it closed.
No problem. The little ones should be a priority.
They had an asthma attack. Their first.
so looks like they will suffer the allergies, too.
As far as I know, I haven’t had an asthma attack. When i had what the Kid had last night, it was due to allergies. Yes, they have been suffering from all the allergies their parents have plus a couple of their own.
Great observations! Here's my take on your article and some of the comments.
- It's almost a given that whatever is deemed foreign material to the body could easily become the root cause of an allergy if it is present when you get a vaccine. Dead or inactivated viruses are ignored by the body for a reason. They don't pose a threat and the body knows it. Adjuvants that are added to vaccines are basically designed to cause havoc in the body and get the immune system to react to stuff that it would ordinarily ignore. This is why the only way to get real immunity is to catch the disease (or get a live vaccine, although they can and do mutate and then cause outbreaks of their own, but that's another story). Anyway, this I think is the root cause of a lot of recent allergies, which of course happened in the past too, when the immune system mistook something non infectious as a target, but now due to vaccines this is exploding! Someone in the contents mentioned peanuts and I am sure that some peanut extract was used in some vaccines, so this is likely the cause. I also got hay-fever myself and I am sure it was caused by the recent shot I got.
- I think you are right on the mark with arthritis being linked to other allergies. This one is a bit more controversial as there seems to be less solid evidence compared to my comment above, but lots of anecdotal evidence out there that allergy effects are cumulative. This means that for it to really flare up, it must pass a certain threshold and this could come from DIFFERENT allergy sources. For example, if there is lots of dust in your house, then that threshold is already elevated and you may react much worse to pollen than if your house was kept clean.
- Robovacs are excellent. It keeps dust levels low, dust bunnies are a thing of the past and a light vacuum once a week is enough to be essentially dust free!
- Since you've tried DMSO already (vs I assume you're willing to at least try some of the more controversial products) I've heard that chlorine dioxide might work for auto immune conditions. I have to admit I'm just starting to look into it and am still skeptical, but if it's really bad for you at some point, it might be worth a shot.
- Immune system wanes in old age as it has also aged, but they're us good evidence that it is more likely to get things wrong too, so it has to tone itself down anyway. This explains how a lot of people grow out of their allergies.
Thanks for the comments.
Peanut products are in just about everything in the US, so to me, it would be more surprising to learn that they are not in vaccines than to learn that they are.
I have become skeptical of everything and yet, open minded. The human race survived a very long time without modern medicine. I believe that as in other areas, here too much knowledge has been lost or suppressed. I was skeptical of DMSO. Were it not for several factors, I would probably still be so. But I was injured and the only option left was an operation. Readers supplying me with the substance and information on how to use it, I gave it a try and boy, did it work magic. I believe that there are other forgotten cures out there. However, I know enough about history to be wary. Snake oil sales men were real. In Japan, I actually saw a frog oil salesman on the precincts of a shrine. I will look into chlorine dioxide. What is real and not, never easy to discern. With the volume of information easily available now, even more so. I recall a quote attributed to more than one person, “One should never read health journals lest one die of a misprint.” Yet, mankind had ways of dealing with ailments that worked in the past, at least to some degree, that we no longer use.
Gama no abura 🤣!?! Never thought there'd be someone actually trying to sell me some today though!
LoL!
I grew up with horrible allergies, especially when we moved to the wheat fields of Kansas - both my brother and I suffered well into adulthood (with occasional suffering in my 60's).
When I moved to Australia, I was allergic to nothing, it smelled of eucalyptus, my sinuses were very happy!
So I'm allergic to Australia now, but I have to tell the story. Midwestern Doc reports that - when you take a jab, you become allergic to whatever pollen is in the air at the time of the jab, because your immune system takes a hit, and what you didn't react to before now becomes inflammatory.
SO - in order to take a trip to Thailand, I took a series of shots in 2008. Since then, I have been allergic to Australia (mildly compared to childhood, but still an issue).
THIS makes me wonder what shots I took in Kansas....because wheat is still a problem for me.
Interesting. That seems to make sense. Though I don’t think I had any shots at the times I developed my adulthood allergies. I wonder what the time window would be. I had to get a Japanese encephalitis vaccine before coming to Japan on one of visits. I’m thinking for my first time here when I was in the navy.
Where did you move to Kansas from?
Moved to Kansas from Ohio at the age of - 8? (so I don't know what shots I would have taken)
I have never suffered from hay fever as far as I know. I do get blocked sinuses and my nose is sensitive and drips often in certain conditions but nothing debilitating. It’s most noticeable when I sleep and I am pretty much always forced to breathe through my mouth. Although I have known people of my generation who did suffer from hay fever (back in my school days) there might only be a couple of people out of a class of around 30. Another classmate had asthma which would get quite scary from time to time but he was the only one.
Of my two kids, the youngest suffers allergies to something in the air and her eyes swell up and her sinuses become blocked. I guess that would be classed as hay fever.
Peanut allergy was just unheard of when I was a kid and people would’ve laughed at the idea that you might have to put warnings on products that may have come into contact with peanut residue even if the products themselves didn’t include peanuts as one of the ingredients.
I wish I could remember where I read it, but there was an article on Substack just recently mentioning some of the ingredients in vaccines contained proteins derived from common foods. And there was a guy a while back talking about jabbing people with something to make them intolerant to meat in order for us to “save the planet”.
It also seems odd that the air I breathed as a child was probably far more polluted than it is today - cars used leaded petrol and were far less efficient back then for one thing. And factories could spew out huge clouds of smoke and in fact that is how you would draw a factory as a child - a big square building with a huge chimney on top with a nice smoke cloud rising above it! Even as an adult I lived close to an airport for a year or two and each morning I would get up and cough for about half an hour and I would literally cough up black stuff! I’ve also been to India in the 90s and the pollution there was the worst I have even witnessed and it would get ingrained under your fingernails and in your scalp just walking through the city. And yet, all the kids looked vibrant and healthy, despite the conditions and poverty.
Ultimately, at this point, we don’t even really need to be sure what harms are caused by vaccines - to me, they are nothing more than quack medicine and if we removed all the unnecessary medical interventions from our lives and the lives of our kids, not only would everyone be far more healthy, we could then focus more easily on any remaining factors. Right now, not only are there too many factors at play to easily single out any one single cause, it’s likely that some factors work in tandem and the combined effects of say food additives and vaccines would no longer be an issue if just one of the factors was removed from the equation.
I am one of the lucky ones, I have outgrown most of my allergies, at 69 I hope it is not a temporary thing. Even poison ivy, and no, I don't expose myself to it intentionally, I'm careful and it has not been a problem.
I didn’t need to even see the stuff and caught poison ivy. But it did get less bad as a teen anger and I don’t think I’ve had it as an adult. Not that that means anything. Not much of that plant to be found at se and as far as I know, it is not found in Japan. I have been curious if I am still allergic to it or not.
In the States I always was told that once you became allergic to something, you would be for life. Not having anyone else to observe, I believed it. Now, after knowing that we have been lied to about so much on health and diet, I have no idea if this is true or not. Not surprised if this too was a lie.
if that is true, then why do allergy shots try to build up your resistance to those things.
An allergy shot is composed of tiny amounts of the things you are allergic to, to try and reduce your reaction to those things.
HOWEVER once you've had an anaphylaxis - you probably should avoid that thing for life.
There was no such thing as allergy shots in my child hood. I should say, that there was not such thing in wide usage. They were probably in development and may even have existed somewhere, but such things were always talked about like, “Would’t be great when they finally have a shot that can prevent allergies.”
I think I might be older than you. These weren't to prevent allergies, but to treat them. To improve your resistance to the allergen.
I remember when such things were talked about, in the late 80 to early 90s as I recall. But only for a couple allergies. It has been since this trio to Japan which began in 2000 that people I knew began taking the kinds of shots and treatments you are talking about, small amounts of the allergen to train the body to recognize it as harmless. But, as far as I know, these were not widely known in the 70s and 80s. So they could not have played into what we thought and were told about allergies and their longevity. But understanding and knowledge changes. Almost wrote improves but as we have recently seen, that is not always true.
I started taking them in 1971, and throughout my school years until around 1980. I don't know how well they worked, but I did "outgrow" the worst of it.
Interesting. Never heard of them growing up. But, like I said earlier, they may have existed but not widely used. I wonder if they may have been found not so effective and they stopped being used for a while as they worked to improve them.
I'm even luckier. I never had allergies -- not even allergic to poison ivy.