When i lived in Ohio, we suffered Buckeye jokes from Kentucky 'Briarhoppers' and Indiana 'Hoosiers'.
Regional insults regarding lack of intelligence a.k.a. "She's so dumb" comedy is very amusing to me. If you can substitute the target of your humor to ANY group (e.g. regional, religious, cultural) you've nailed a universal truth about humanity. Now we can't say funny things because political correctness rules our speech.
I wish I could join this, but it would betray too much of my identity to do so. I too enjoy regional rivalries and insults. I love it when a rival throws a particularly good zinger my way.
I know that those for that state are know as Hoosiers, but traditionally, US naval sailors are from far from the sea, so it could have come from a Hoosier. As a MM2, I have experience to spare on hose handling as we had main space fire drills every other day at sea and fire drills elsewhere every other in port. Wonder though I did while in, I never connected actual fire hoses to hosed situations, try as I did. Would be fun to find out.
I've been in Oklahoma since Christmas day, visiting my brother. He is blind.
In two months i have been cleaning and repairing the broken things i can, and attempting to hire pros to fix things i cannot.
Tenuki Koji is EVERYWHERE.
The things hidden beneath and behind "renovated" walls and floors is exasperating and dangerous. Unreliable service. Deceitful hidden, cobbled Rube Goldberg fixes are the norm.
In every facet of the attempt to make things right i have been stymied:
hiring someone to assess the problems, provide a comprehensive estimate, source the material and get the work done. (And btw, the big contractors charge exorbitantly, then subcontract to the local handymen who 'creatively' patch-temp fix the issue and make a tidy sum).
Yes, 'hosed' is a curious term with which i feel acquainted.
Fuggedaboudit!
Is there a Japanese term that equates to that idiom?
Is there a Japanese term that equates to “Fuggedaboutit”, not that I know of. Shuganai might fit in some situations, but I am not sure. “shoganai” is a phrase that I can say for certain drives Americans nuts. It may others too, but I do not know. The short explanation is it means that nothing can be done when nothing has been tried. It is akin to difikulto, “difficult” in katakana. Yeah, like is difficult, so what? Hop to it bozo. Is my reaction. But when a Japanese says this, it means “I will not trouble myself to even try.” My grandfather was a U.S. Navy Seabee. Their motto was, the difficult we do right away. The impossible takes a little longer. Thus, we now know way Japan lost WW2 to mainly the U.S.. They deem things impossible without even trying, and Americans used to get it done regardless of the cost, provided they felt it needed to be done.
Not like we do. An infamous case in Tokyo that led to the death of 44 illustrates this. The city Fire Marshall’s office cited a building for fire code violations month after month until a fire broke out and took 44 lives. Inspectors exist here, but they generally lake the power to really do anything. They seemingly cannot prevent a business from operating.
However, as I recently learned from my student who is the CEO of a food service chain, they can prevent to opening of a business if requirements are not met.
I have a couple of friends, one is an inspector in Miami who does commercial properties and another is a residential designer in Reno. I tend to lean on the side of "no government oversight" but certainly you would think a capitalistic society would want buildings that are safe for human habitation. I mean, the Japanese, at least from a current perspective, are known for making things that last and are better designed than their Western analogs. Yet, we have this incompetence.
Anytime I make mistakes in a job, I feel like shit over it. I fix the problems but wish the mistakes never occurred to begin with, and this is with things that could not possibly harm anyone physically. To know I built an apartment with hollow floors, or phone jacks that are like props in a movie would be a bridge too far for me.
In Indiana, we called Tenuki Koji:
"Hoosiering"
The plumbing in this house has been "hoosiered."
As in, some local yokel bypassed inspections and regulations and professional standards and just "did it." Hoosiered.
Rant:
When i lived in Ohio, we suffered Buckeye jokes from Kentucky 'Briarhoppers' and Indiana 'Hoosiers'.
Regional insults regarding lack of intelligence a.k.a. "She's so dumb" comedy is very amusing to me. If you can substitute the target of your humor to ANY group (e.g. regional, religious, cultural) you've nailed a universal truth about humanity. Now we can't say funny things because political correctness rules our speech.
I wish I could join this, but it would betray too much of my identity to do so. I too enjoy regional rivalries and insults. I love it when a rival throws a particularly good zinger my way.
I wonder if that is the origin of the navy’s term “hosed” used similarly as “hoosiered” but more expansively.
Doubt it. Hoosier being the derogatory slang for "people from Indiana"
Hosed (Navy) likely has something to do with deck swabbing or procedure? Ship events....
Then there's the Canadian insult, "Hoser." I'm sure someone with clever linguistics could figure it out.
"We named the dog Indiana" ~Sean Connery
I know that those for that state are know as Hoosiers, but traditionally, US naval sailors are from far from the sea, so it could have come from a Hoosier. As a MM2, I have experience to spare on hose handling as we had main space fire drills every other day at sea and fire drills elsewhere every other in port. Wonder though I did while in, I never connected actual fire hoses to hosed situations, try as I did. Would be fun to find out.
I've been in Oklahoma since Christmas day, visiting my brother. He is blind.
In two months i have been cleaning and repairing the broken things i can, and attempting to hire pros to fix things i cannot.
Tenuki Koji is EVERYWHERE.
The things hidden beneath and behind "renovated" walls and floors is exasperating and dangerous. Unreliable service. Deceitful hidden, cobbled Rube Goldberg fixes are the norm.
In every facet of the attempt to make things right i have been stymied:
hiring someone to assess the problems, provide a comprehensive estimate, source the material and get the work done. (And btw, the big contractors charge exorbitantly, then subcontract to the local handymen who 'creatively' patch-temp fix the issue and make a tidy sum).
Yes, 'hosed' is a curious term with which i feel acquainted.
Fuggedaboudit!
Is there a Japanese term that equates to that idiom?
Is there a Japanese term that equates to “Fuggedaboutit”, not that I know of. Shuganai might fit in some situations, but I am not sure. “shoganai” is a phrase that I can say for certain drives Americans nuts. It may others too, but I do not know. The short explanation is it means that nothing can be done when nothing has been tried. It is akin to difikulto, “difficult” in katakana. Yeah, like is difficult, so what? Hop to it bozo. Is my reaction. But when a Japanese says this, it means “I will not trouble myself to even try.” My grandfather was a U.S. Navy Seabee. Their motto was, the difficult we do right away. The impossible takes a little longer. Thus, we now know way Japan lost WW2 to mainly the U.S.. They deem things impossible without even trying, and Americans used to get it done regardless of the cost, provided they felt it needed to be done.
Do they not have inspectors in Japan?
Not like we do. An infamous case in Tokyo that led to the death of 44 illustrates this. The city Fire Marshall’s office cited a building for fire code violations month after month until a fire broke out and took 44 lives. Inspectors exist here, but they generally lake the power to really do anything. They seemingly cannot prevent a business from operating.
However, as I recently learned from my student who is the CEO of a food service chain, they can prevent to opening of a business if requirements are not met.
I have a couple of friends, one is an inspector in Miami who does commercial properties and another is a residential designer in Reno. I tend to lean on the side of "no government oversight" but certainly you would think a capitalistic society would want buildings that are safe for human habitation. I mean, the Japanese, at least from a current perspective, are known for making things that last and are better designed than their Western analogs. Yet, we have this incompetence.
Anytime I make mistakes in a job, I feel like shit over it. I fix the problems but wish the mistakes never occurred to begin with, and this is with things that could not possibly harm anyone physically. To know I built an apartment with hollow floors, or phone jacks that are like props in a movie would be a bridge too far for me.
The Japanese are known for many things that just aren’t so.