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Bare-Faced Plague-Spreader's avatar

I'll take things I don't want to know for 500.00, Alex.

That is horribly disappointing. Did you ask him specifically which ones and why?

Kitsune, Maskless Crusader.'s avatar

Sorry. As I have posted about the UN’s Sustainable Development Goals (SDGs) before, I forgot that those not in an environment where they are advertised everywhere might benefit from a refresher.

I did not ask because the answer will have no meaning. First, he only knows what he is told about them, and I haven’t been the one telling him about SDGs. Second, though each SDG focuses mainly upon its own goal, all also support all the others. Let’s say he supports SDG 11 Sustainable Cities and Communities. This would include, SDG 1 No Poverty, SDG 5 Gender Equality (for ALL genders) and all the others. As a brief example, SDG 11 Sustainable Cities and Communities includes how to build these so that there is no poverty, no injustice, not discrimination of non binary gender people, unmitigated migration, responsible consumption and spending and all the rest. Same with all the SDGs. Those who support SDGs support all the social ills facing us today. They just don’t know it.

Kathleen Taylor's avatar

Or they have succumbed to brainwashing and believe these goals have incomprehensible “merit.” It's terribly wrong to impose these misguided, self-defeating concepts upon children.

Kitsune, Maskless Crusader.'s avatar

Yes it is, but so is much of what is called education. SDGs consolidate all the left’s nonsense.

Bare-Faced Plague-Spreader's avatar

It's true that a lot of this stuff sounds good, but means nothing, but that's precisely the point: to get your son to think. And maybe that's why he steers clear of you, because he knows he will get into the uncomfortable territory of having to defend something that cannot be defended.

I would choose "responsible consumption" because this is something he will feel. At some point, "responsible consumption" means moderating "irresponsible consumption." And this could be anything from limiting the amount of something you can consume to banning it altogether. That's one of the reasons for 15 minute cities, to place a limit on where you can go so as not to burn resources.

But what else will happen? Will there be someone to moderate what is considered to be "essential coonsumption?" Will there be some third party that determines what is considered "good consumption" Also, to ensure there is no poverty or hunger, what will be the metric to decide who gets what and how much?

Kitsune, Maskless Crusader.'s avatar

Well, we have some pretty good indicators with MDs and nurses refusing to treat unvaxxed and now those they believe to be MAGA or ICE.

wilson's avatar

sustainable development goals is my guess for sdg. I learned the UN was a fraud and a scam in 1995.

Bare-Faced Plague-Spreader's avatar

Sdg's are another go at utopia. The problem with utopia is that it is tyranny. It is someone's idea of ideal. To have the ideal is fine, and to live up to it in your own life is fine. To enlist volunteers in this type of thing is also fine. Henry David Thoreau and BF Skinner had their ideas of utopia. Four-day workweeks sounded too good to be true.

Because it is.

My idea of utopia and yours are two different things.

Because of government-sponsored utopia, and global utopia, is that inevitably, it will get distilled down to the LCD, or least common denominator. Make it so no one can starve and everyone will be in equal misery. We got a taste of it during Covid. Determining who was essential and non-essential. Determining what could open and close. Determining under what conditions things could reopen.

Corporate entities couldn't fall over one another fast enough to embrace SDG's.

Because they were. the ones that won. Unprecedented transfer of wealth. Like bleeding a rock.

Kitsune, Maskless Crusader.'s avatar

True. But it is even worse than that, IMHO. Not all corporations embraced SDGs. L. Fink (What am appropriate name.) of Black Rock forced, through his controls of finance, companies to go woke even if it destroyed their brands.

He forced ESGs, similar in design, scope and goals to the UN’s SDGs, upon all who need lines of credit to remain in business with his ESG scoring system. Not spending a certain amount of resources on DEI lowered the ESG score and limited a company’s access to financial services. This was creation and immediate death, so some companies went woke in the hopes that it could be dealt with in the future but not going woke at the time would ensure that there would be no future for the company.

Belling the Cat's avatar

An easy way to spot the scam or unreality of the SDGs is to delve into how progress is measured (surprise, very poorly or not at all).

David Taylor's avatar

As this is against nature and in itself unsustainable, it is hopefully just a phase he is going through and if he's smart enough, he'll wake up eventually. With each generation there are similar causes that people get roped into and become passionate about only to see the bigger picture in later adult life. That doesn't mean it's not yet another thing to be upset about as I also would be. A friend of mine has 3 adult kids in their 20s and both girls are completely woke and the boy is the only one I can actually have a decent conversation with. One of the girls even came out as a lesbian and while lesbians have always existed, I can't help but assume she would not have gone down that path if she had been born just a few years earlier. And for the record, I am not against people following what their heart tells them, just against a system that actively tries to push it on people who would otherwise find their own way, whatever that may be.

Inverted Reality's avatar

Hahaha, what a disappointment. Sorry!