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David Taylor's avatar

At this stage, I think we have little choice but to assume the jab was the reason for any illness suffered by friends or relatives unless there’s firm evidence to suggest otherwise. In some cases it might only be one of a number of factors as in the case of my friend who had a stroke about 18 months ago. While not being overweight, he certainly wasn’t one to exercise or keep fit apart from the daily walk to and from the bus stop. So perhaps if he had been fitter, it might not have happened or the stroke might have been delayed. Same as the wife of a friend who had a brain aneurism a couple of weeks ago. She had almost certainly suffered from an auto immune condition after the jab and even acknowledged this. But can I link this with the aneurism? Of course I cannot say 100% but there’s every reason to assume that to be the case. What about her brother who died of turbo cancer only 2 weeks after diagnosis? Or the old classmates, a few of whom died within the last couple of years. There is actually no harm in getting in wrong occasionally as the fact is 99 times out of 100, the jab is likely to have been a factor if not the main cause.

Kitsune, Maskless Crusader.'s avatar

Yep, we all have been looking at covid wrong. In reality, it is the cure for all that was before it arrived. Gone throughout its reign were deaths from cancer, heart disease, diabetes, and all others.

I am of the belief that prolonged mask usage will end up being the taker of the most lives/

Kitsune, Maskless Crusader.'s avatar

I agree, unless proven otherwise p, all turbo cancers and sudden deaths and many other conditions should be assumed to me a result of the clot shot. At the very least, this is consistent with how they classified every death as covid until the shots were released.

Bare-Faced Plague-Spreader's avatar

I think for at least these very weird emergent diseases that seem quite anomalous are suspicious, but it could have a variety of sources. I would be intellectually dishonest to say otherwise. Pre 2020, people got brain fog, fatigue, and a constellation of many other symptoms that had many sources.

Then came Covid and it's like everything suddenly became Covid.

And then the shots came out and the other side states it must be the shots.

I tend to lean in the direction that the experimental injection causes a sudden onset and acute diseases. But neither the injection, nor the indefinite long and protracted wearing of masks are doing anyone any favors either.

Tim Groves's avatar

I would add that people have been taking other shots before the Covid ones. Annual influenza shots are quite popular among those who believe (rightly or wrongly) they can lessen the severity of the flu. A lot of older people are afraid that a bout of the flu may turn into pneumonia and even kill them, perhaps with good reason. And they may see the annual shot as a way to reduce the risk.

Meanwhile, they are unwittingly putting themself at risk because each shot is a potential opportunity for something inside the shot to damage the body or trigger a process leading to cancer, a stroke, a heart attack, or one of a plethora of autoimmune diseases.

Bare-Faced Plague-Spreader's avatar

There is no telling what damage any of these shots do over time. I recently tried to reach out and get my own vaccination record. I know my parents took me to the doctor for some shots, and I know for certain I got the tetanus shot after stepping on a rusty nail back in the woods one summer in the seventies.

Tim Groves's avatar

Yes, I expect most of us have had at least one or two tetanus shots, and stepped on a few rusty nails.

I had a tetanus shot in the 1970s when I was about 13 years old following an accident in which I scraped my head against a rough concrete bike shed ceiling and needed some stitches. I still wince to think of it, but I also remember that the nurse who tended my wound was very cute.

Then around 20 years ago, I had another tetanus shot after another accident in which had the skin ripped from two fingers when a glove I was wearing got caught in a rotating straw cutting machine.

Going to hospital for serious cuts received outside will generally result in a tetanus shot along with whatever treatment is required. Then again, 20 years ago, I accepted this was a reasonable precaution. These days, due to my "exposure to misinformation" on the Internet, I am far more afraid of what the shot might do to me than of the possibility of developing tetanus. :)

But at the same time, I think it's better not live our lives worrying about what may never happen or about past events that we can o nothing to change now. I definitely had the oral polio vaccine at the age of six—I remember it as a red dot on a sugar cube. And I definitely had the BCG at the age of 14 from a jet gun that was used on all the kids in my class in turn with no sterilization.

Jet gun injection is no longer carried out due to the risk of contamination There was a Hepatitis B outbreak in 1985 in the US that was traced to this method.

Bare-Faced Plague-Spreader's avatar

I agree with you about not worrying about the past. Heck, back in 2022, I got the pneumonia vaccine for the stupidest reason ever, and that was to simply show my doctor that I wasn't a complete "anti-vaxxer." I had already told her I wasn't going to get the experimental injection, and I gave her a reasonable list of reasons as to why, but then I got the pneumonia vaccine.

Her credibility as a doctor was suspect as she was insistent that I wear a mask in the examination room and was fine with a surgical mask. Yet, I caught her and the team of doctors just after lunch donning masks as I rolled my way into the doctor's office proper from the waiting room.

It felt like the director had called "places everyone," and so people put on their masks and were ready to perform their medical theater after their lunch intermission.

BetterOffRed's avatar

Condolences.

MDS is a terrible poison. Sadly, i think we're going to witness a lot more of these turbo deaths and "treatment" patents.